Gear Review: The Ray-Way Pack

I’ve gotten a lot of questions about my backpack, mostly because people don’t recognize it and are curious as to where it came from. The reason they don’t recognize it, of course, is because I made it!  However, I didn’t design it. I made it from a Ray-Way kit.

There is no better test for a backpack than a thru-hike. I wore it nearly every day for five months. It’s been through sun, rain, and snow. It’s been thrown on the ground, brushed against overgrown trees, and even used as a seat. It’s been stuffed to the brim and overloaded. It’s been spilled on and spilled in.

Comfort

It’s important to note that this pack an ultralight pack, and as such it is frameless and has no hip belt.  Why would anyone ditch the frame and hip belt? Because if you do it right, it’s more comfortable. However, there is a learning curve. Your pack weight must be low enough that the suspension system isn’t necessary. Additionally, you must learn how to properly pack your pack, both for weight distribution and also so nothing rigid is poking you in the back while you hike. Get these two things wrong and the pack will not be comfortable. I’d recommend a base weight of no more than 12 pounds, but I really think it would be better get under 10 pounds to try this pack.

With a low pack weight and properly packed bag, the frameless, hip belt-less system is far more comfortable than the best framed pack out there. It allows for greater range of motion and a more natural stride. It’s easier to take the pack on and off.

Yes, my shoulders did hurt a little more initially, but this was balanced by not having bruised hips, and the ability to easily set the pack down at breaks. When we had to carry heavier loads through the Sierra, I decided to swap back to my framed pack and I hated every minute of it. I felt like I was strapped to the pack and not vice versa, and my legs were sore from using different muscles as a result of the limited range of motion. I found I’d rather deal with the heavier load on my shoulders for a few days than deal with the cumbersome framed pack. I went back to the Ray-Way and never looked back.

Unlike most ultralight packs out there, the shoulder straps on this pack are attached slightly lower on the pack, bringing the center of weight slightly higher on the body. It seems to me this weight distribution is a little easier on the shoulders and engages the core, rather than trying to transfer the weight to the hips, which is pointless in a frameless pack.

Durability

My biggest concern with having a homemade pack was the durability, and this pack excels in every way.  A lot of this has to do with the durable thread I used, but more credit goes to the pack design. The shoulder straps especially are very reinforced, and have proven to last even when carrying heavier loads than typical. I’ve seen many ultralight packs that are professionally made, very expensive, and rip and tear where the shoulder straps are attached, even with moderate loads. I had no such issues whatsoever. The mesh pockets also proved to be very durable. So many packs now use flimsy mesh for the external pockets, and when the mesh catches on tree branches or rocks it rips very easily. This pack has very durable mesh and I did not have a single rip or tear through the entire hike. In fact, my pack is still in good enough shape to do another long hike.

The only downside durability-wise is the padding inside the shoulder straps, which did get worn down over the course of the hike (but still functional). This was the only major wear and tear I experienced with the pack.

Functionality

The Ray-Way pack design is the basis of most ultralight packs currently on the market. It has a top closure with a cinch strap over the top. It has three external pockets with plenty of room. Some people like more pockets, but I personally feel it just leeds to more disorganization and encourages carrying extra unnecessary gear. The three external pockets hold my water bottles, water filter, and any extra layers I might be adding or removing throughout the day. The shoulder straps are made with a daisy chain, which makes it simple to add a sternum strap, pockets on the shoulder strap, to add some ties to hold a water bottle, or even to rig a hands-free system to hold my umbrella. The pockets are deep enough to hold a lot of gear, but they are high enough on the pack that they don’t scrape against the ground when you set the pack down (which can lead to ripped pockets very fast). Both sides of the pack feature 2 webbing straps above the side pockets which can be used to hold large gear sticking out of the pockets in place (such as a trekking pole or umbrella) or it could be used as a line to dry some laundry on the outside of the pack (mostly socks) or other gear such as a bandana.

There were two features I didn’t love about the pack. First, the design has a drawstring top closure. I found when the pack wasn’t full (and it was never truly full due to the very generous extension collar), there was too much excess fabric just hanging there. I decided to modify the top and make it a roll-top closure instead, which I felt worked much better. Secondly, the strap and buckle that goes over the top of the closure to cinch the load down didn’t hold as tightly as it should, because the buckle was slipping on the webbing when it was pulled tight. This could be modified with a different webbing and buckle combo, but I didn’t notice it until later in the hike, because it only happened when my pack wasn’t very full and therefore pretty light. In other words, it didn’t seem to affect the performance of the pack, but it still annoyed me and I would change it in the future.

One minor downside to the kit is it doesn’t come with instructions to add loops for an ice axe. I was able to add some easily after I finished the pack, but I still think it should include instructions to add the loops as an option.

I also wish the top closure system included a modification to easily strap a bear canister to the top of the pack. As it were, I carried mine in the inside of the pack, but anyone who has done that in just about any pack knows it is still a pain. I’m not sure what the right modification would be to strap the can on the top securely, but I’m also not sure there is any good solution for carrying the bear can, it’s just something we all have to deal with. Added note: I bought the middle size pack (about 42 liters) because it claimed to hold a bear can horizontally. It did not. I made it work just fine vertically, but it’s worth noting.

Price

The kit cost me around $80. This is cheaper than even the cheapest of ultralight packs. Cottage manufacturers typically charge $150-300 for a pack. Go to REI and it might be hard to find one under $200. If I were to simply make a pack of my own design, the materials would probably be more like $30, so you’re really paying for the design and instructions, and avoiding the research needed to find all the right fabrics. Just choose your colors and go. I bought the recommended thread for another $8 or so, and it was plenty to make the pack with leftover. I brought the leftover thread as my repair thread on trail because it is so durable.

Would I Use it Again?

Absolutely!  In fact, I plan to make another one for the CDT. The difference for this one is that I will be making the smaller size pack. I found the pack was usually a little larger than I needed, and almost never needed the extension collar. For the CDT I will be trying the small size (about 36 liters), which I think will be a better fit for my gear.

12 thoughts on “Gear Review: The Ray-Way Pack

  1. Hi,
    I am planning to hike the PCT in 2018. I too made a Ray Way pack. I was interested to read your thoughts on it. I added ice axe and hiking pole loops into the side seams while making it along with some smaller loops in that seam for using shock cord. In the seam where the collar joins the pack I put 8 small loops with the hopes of lashing my bear canister there if need be or extra gear. I am also going to probably make mine a roll top closure as well. Thanks for your blog, I enjoy it! Have fun on the CDT next year, looking forward to your posts on that!
    Kristina

  2. It was interesting reading your review, thanks. I have a Ray Way 2400 pack I made. I hiked the Colorado Trail last summer with it. The year before I hiked the Wonderland Trail but chickened out using it on the Tahoe Rim Trail but kicked myself the whole way for doing so. I probably have around 900 miles on it and the only wear I’ve seen is the coating rubbing off near the top on the back of the pack. I plan to use it this year on the PCT. A bear can won’t fit so I’ll be sewing a 2800 for the Sierra. I’d be interested in where you sewed loops for holding an ice axe and how large they are.

      1. Cool, thanks for showing the picture. I like the watchstrap idea. I like your Instagram, and started following. All the best on you CDT through, you’ll really like the San Juans!

  3. I stumbled upon your article. Thanks very much, it’s very helpful. Jardine doesn’t state on his website what the maximum load is for his pack; he just says it’s not for the typical load of heavy commercial gear. Your number makes sense to me. At least it gives me a guideline since you’re experienced. I made the pack, tarp and quilt. Haven’t taken them into the field backpacking yet. I’ve been using the pack for training hikes and love it.

    If I may ask, how many days of food on average did you carry on your thru hike? Did you carry a stove and fuel? I’m asking because I’m not confident I can carry a bear canister, stove/fuel and more than 3.5 days of food and keep the total pack weight at 20-25 pounds.

    1. An average for carry is probably 4 days. My husband carries the stove and pot since we share gear. The most I have carried in the pack was a bear canister with 7 days of food, and probably weighed in at 30+ pounds. Fortunately, the weight decreases every day as you eat the food, so it’s a temporary discomfort. It definitely hurts the shoulders more than a frame pack, but every pack and piece of gear has some kind of trade-off. I was very worried before the PCT about the heavy carries, but the body adjusts and it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be.

    2. Eric,
      I started my PCT hike with the 3000 in^3 Rayway pack, the Rayway quilt (alpine weight and finished weight of 32 oz, because I hate being cold). and a bear can because I didn’t know better. I was stoveless for 800 miles–after that I made Jim Woods supercat alcohol stove and picked up alcohol as needed–my saucepan: an Evernew 900 ml. I traded out the quilt for a 20 oz zPacks down quilt and dropped the bear can until the Park Service required it. After Yosemite, bear cans can go home.
      Quilt sleeping for me requires good head insulation. I made Ray’s Insulated hat kit, but found the coverage deficient for neck and face coverage. I found a great pattern online somewhere and used that, backpackinglight.com forums might have a link.
      Entirely doable with the Rayway, if you can put up with a sweaty back and have a low enough base weight.

  4. Great review of the Ray Way.
    The reasons for changing out my Ray Way pack:
    1. my base weight of about 18 pounds.
    2. on any day when the temperature exceeded 60 deg F, my back got incredibly sweaty such that even my shorts got nearly soaking wet.
    I ended my 2000 mile hiking season with an Osprey Exos 58, whose mesh back band allowed enough ventilation that my shirt never soaked. The Exos was big and almost two pounds more than the Ray way, but I wasn’t ready at the time for a drastic baseweight reduction
    What I also really liked about the Osprey Exos: I could retrieve and replace my water bottle from the side pockets without removing the pack or straining old ligaments and tendons. I’d alter my Ray Way pack for that if not for the sweaty back. The problem with the Osprey was the feature explosion. Many pockets that invite hikers (me, especially) to take stuff that we’d never need. It did address my “need” to remain organized, though the Rayway’s three mesh pockets should have been enough.

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